mmmmxtasy

Reply 70# Endemonadia
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! ~: }, h! |) f2 l  Q    My account is no better than any one player on either server and nowhere did i say that
/ d% d5 C2 K4 Y5 t* f$ Z8 r6 O! pAll this is futile your going round in circles and i refuse to enter into any longer, as stated ive spoke briefly with Pharos , more in depth with Tir,  i will also speak with Wolfpack  GL and any other guild leader over there that wants to (large or small, all count to me)  when i get there  

Endemonadia

Reply 71# mmmmxtasy , G- m: S! C9 L3 n

$ Y  I, w% V# B$ jCongrats on avoiding the issues.
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Ur clearly not interested in the future of this game otherwise u would be prepared to discuss a fair merger.  Looks like the writings on the wall...

Neminsis

Reply 67# Endemonadia
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) [( r2 h6 Y3 ]) ?1 q, @5 RAnd what you're avoiding are the actual game mechanics themselves.: y( j3 C  v' G' v& f
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You are not going to advance as fast as someone not "competing".
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You are not going to be able to raid for more resources or level your leaders as fast as someone farming nodes.) b4 C2 X9 `- h7 e. E" b% Q5 h) u0 V, c

& I% J) p5 L3 k; w$ \- S  iYou are not going to make as many credits sitting on tps or  farm as much gear with your leaders tied up fighting for meaningless internet "glory".
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Looking at Geminis development I'd guess that you'd have figured this out for yourselves in another couple weeks anyways but let me tell you as someone that's gone through the exact same phase, what you think you know about the game is all wrong.
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You might as well all just quit now because what "winning the server" actually means is that you retire from raiding other players except for dailies because it's the only way to advance beyond a certain point.
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The game stops being a war game and it turns into farmville with a chatroom at end game and it's exactly the same for everyone.
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If Gemini were left alone, you'd reach the same point that Orion did and most of the top players would just quit.
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% `! S" {* H: C2 S9 q0 i3 WAll hail the conquerers...now put on your big boy pants and come sit at the grown ups table.

Endemonadia

And herelies the reason so many people left Orion right... the douchebags who just throw around personal insults.
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* r+ ?9 q. e! y( w0 Q, s! J5 oyeah we cant wait for u to join Gemini... ur painting such a friendly picture of u all.

Ayman1

I still think that merging will spoil game, i'm not sure how long i'll keep playing after merging but i'm sure that most players at gemini that don't have accounts at Orion will also abandon the game because it's gonna ruin game, and yes, i have been contribuing buying Bcreds, think you guys should call off the merge

Neminsis

Reply 74# Endemonadia
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9 J9 M; D& U  c0 y0 i. b% jAnd there's two solid threads of you talking about how evil the players on Orion are and for what purpose? So you can maintain your control over many, many smaller players.- U8 I" G  `9 |6 y( }, @
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You're as transparent as glass and it wouldn't be much of a chore to go back through those threads and make a tally of your own "insults".1 H, y0 ~1 b  G1 c" {$ _4 S

  N* r3 u) \1 v3 [, GI'm only here to allow you to keep embarassing yourself.
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4 Y' ~4 B/ B8 V* b" XCarry on.

Endemonadia

Reply 76# Neminsis 8 Q% n1 }2 R; a- U$ F6 a

+ O2 u! @2 G1 w; HPoint to anywhere i have called u any names or called u evil?
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2 z# [! }/ e) G7 s( F5 |, Z4 kAll ive said is from a totally general overview of what the new merged realm will look like.  And thats that the Orion players will dominate it cos they are so far ahead of Gemini.  If u take that as a personal insult then u have issues my friend.  - h+ z3 o. C) `% P6 J7 C

- Z: _4 Y, Z# ^, tSo far not a single player on Gemini has posted here to say they agree with this merger as it stands.  Most have said theyre gonna quit... u guys r the ones looking stupid for your defense of your grip on the entire game is costing the game players overall.  
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U can continue to delude yourself that my points r meaningless or u can step up and lets all work together to making this merger a success by addressing everyones concerns./ j- B) ^  `5 D' B$ h2 O- m8 v
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It is u my freind who will be the king of an empty game...

mmmmxtasy

Reply 77# Endemonadia
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7 A$ S/ B8 K' o8 V7 J6 }. v6 p    POINT UR MISSING ...  we dont dominate on Orion, yes we have wars (generally resolved with diplomacy within the day) , foremost we have discussions and unless your at war with us your generally left be ... So what is your fear? yes if u step on us we will step back if you dont we wont , surly your response to us stepping on you would be the same ? after all it is a war game
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I have messaged Tir though another means and proposed various venues i can meet with ALL guild Leaders after all we are the ones that will lay the route down to be followed: u, L# F0 |; W
that will also include Leaders from Orion ... Hopefully then we can put an end to this wittering and get on with preparing for the merge that will happen be it now or later   k+ w( U9 U, M6 s
And im sure if you actually ask both Tir or Pharos they will agree im fair and ALWAYS  up for discussion.9 h' y# S- j! o
So any guild Leader on gemini feel free to contact Tir he has the means of contacting me outside of game to set this meeting up and any Guild Leader from Orion can obviously contact me in game
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Neminsis

Reply 77# Endemonadia + ^4 ?* M. j, d8 X! F

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You have a very short memory...Are you sure that you haven't been the slightest bit offensive?...Let's take a look at just this thread shall we...: m3 w$ c1 w9 F5 }
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"The ONLY people who want this merge are the god-players on Orion"
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"why the fukk should the winning players of Gemini be players who get teleported in with 10 times more power than those who have been playing it from the start?  Instant top 20 players introduced and they can call themselves winners of Gemini when they havent done ANY work on it?"3 G# s6 s" w0 S0 u0 p# @

/ {- h" h  @9 {! w# n. D, I"The Orion players r gonna come over here and rule a server they aint done a single ounce of work to."4 D* t3 X* p4 m
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"And Gemini will be won by players who gatecrashed the party  and started on Orion..."9 o  {( [/ k5 J5 f2 a# r* z/ \0 ?
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"A load of foreigners who have not been part of the race are being given a free pass to win that world without putting in any effort to get there."6 K* v& H. q  h! I4 m) n

- a- T* w5 y8 d8 O( N* E"Why must Orion top players be treated any differently?  Why do u get special treatment?"6 o, M+ h. D* B* M( |2 \. {
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"Orion players simply get given a new coimmunity to beat... u already beat everyone on your current realm and now we are simply being fed to u so u can beat everyone on Gemini also."7 F% C2 {- O/ R6 M
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"We are simply being fed to Orion players so they have people to play against."
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6 ^0 S% X5 Q" K/ V0 S$ ["ur just giving Orion players everything and screwing Gemini players."
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"looks like Orions paying customers r more important than Gemini paying customers."
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"Anyway... the consensus is to quit this game so its pointless even trying to discuss FAIR play with u guys... u will defend your godlike position to the last over common sense and fairplay."
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"I would like to be the first person to congratulate Justice on winning Gemini... well done, your rise to glory was truly epic"+ \0 o- n. {5 Q* {. I: z! K5 t- a  g

& {8 H# }5 }6 U& {# Y4 F0 ~9 U: c6 p"The only reason u will win is cos of your stupidly high position u have been allowed to keep.  And u think u deserve to win Gemini?"
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; v# Y2 U3 q4 y) M/ K" V2 [. e"Orion guys r not interested in a fair game so there isnt any point in discussing this any further"3 J6 {( z8 V# G% i  I0 F

0 d# A$ T0 ?; Q  P"I totally dont understand why u deserve to win Gemini when u havent done any work whatsoever here, thats whats retarded.  Ur being given this server for no effort and that sucks"1 ^6 I' l1 ]! T# E7 R1 t+ x7 q/ A3 D
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"and ur trying to appease us by giving us some false hope that if we play long enough and work hard enough then sometime in the next 10 years we might be able to knock Justice off the top spot"( K3 X1 V. U+ u
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"And all those players u trodden down left your server which is why its now dead compared to ours."
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"At the end of the day u guys r not prepared to make any form of compromise to make our new server fair and fun.  Ur keeping your strong grip on power tight and refuse to even discuss properly"& w- V& j: Y: R' q0 n1 v) Y
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"Congrats on avoiding the issues."7 B5 E# ]" C5 y

7 ~  R7 K- e) I) H& l"Ur clearly not interested in the future of this game otherwise u would be prepared to discuss a fair merger.  Looks like the writings on the wall..."

Endemonadia

Reply 78# mmmmxtasy
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. s7 W0 d% `+ k/ ?Where have i said we fear u?
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We r not scared of u at all... u have been the one talknig about that not us.  Again totally miss the point *sigh*
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& O& l/ t) g( S, X1 o5 B9 ~7 ^8 |$ UMost people who joined this realm was to get away from the highly progressed and developed Orion for a fresh start where everyone could compete on a level playing field.  Its been a fair and fun race so far, no major drama just competitive play.  Now heres the major point... they all feel the reasons they chose to play Gemini is being taken away from them.  They fnid themselves on Orion, the highly developed and progressed realm.  They didnt sign up for that.
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So... if want this to work the devs must address this issue.  The fact that the reasons most  players r playing on Gemini will be trashed with this merger.  This is why alot will quit.  # g, `! {0 r8 Z5 y; P3 O- g

3 q  y* V: Y0 J& pNow... we have to stop them quitting by showing them that their opinions matter and compromising.! i) X; O; K9 E1 K6 H) n
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Its this issue of compromise that so far we have seen none from Orion.  Whether u like it or not Gemini has its own views and beliefs on how they want their server to function and this merger kilsl that in 1 quick and final move.  
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8 B: W2 T: n: v) u! Y2 s7 YIts not about 'talking to all of the alliances' and coming up with a plan its about fundamentally addressing the issue of two completely different realms being merged into one.  And this should be addressed by the devs to at least compensate the Gemini guys who find themselves losing why they even rolled on Gemini in the first place.  At most they should rebalance the entire game so its a level playing field and the gap between the Orion players is reduced.( [9 ^8 D! K) P1 R: \* _

: Y7 i6 D$ d+ _; ?If u choose to ignore these concerns then ur welcome to your dead  and dying game.
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